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Tournament #567010493, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVI (350/700) - 2012/04/04 16:53:28 ET

Table '567010493 358' 9-max Seat #1 is the button

Seat 1: capocek (35828 in chips)

Seat 2: 19mike77 (19176 in chips)

Seat 3: Sebi_Pl (23915 in chips)

Seat 4: zvejyss10 (49109 in chips)

Seat 5: jmmiro (10937 in chips)

Seat 6: Nuuk79 (11820 in chips)

Seat 7: beluga ace (9351 in chips)

Seat 8: bastian2402 (27317 in chips)

Seat 9: Upzez0r (48613 in chips)

capocek: posts the ante 85

19mike77: posts the ante 85

Sebi_Pl: posts the ante 85

zvejyss10: posts the ante 85

jmmiro: posts the ante 85

Nuuk79: posts the ante 85

beluga ace: posts the ante 85

bastian2402: posts the ante 85

Upzez0r: posts the ante 85

19mike77: posts small blind 350

Sebi_Pl: posts big blind 700

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to zvejyss10 [Ah Tc]

zvejyss10: raises 840 to 1540

jmmiro: folds

Nuuk79: calls 1540

beluga ace: folds

bastian2402: folds

Upzez0r: folds

capocek: folds

19mike77: folds

Sebi_Pl: folds

*** FLOP *** [3c 6c Kc]

zvejyss10: bets 2800

Nuuk79: raises 7395 to 10195 and is all-in

zvejyss10: calls 7395

beveik itm(kazkur 100 liko krist)Ar teisingai suzaista?jis per dvi orbitas nezaide ne vienos rankos...

Tournament #567010493, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (400/800) - 2012/04/04 17:02:09 ET

Table '567010493 358' 9-max Seat #3 is the button

Seat 1: capocek (47073 in chips)

Seat 2: 19mike77 (18656 in chips)

Seat 3: Sebi_Pl (22695 in chips)

Seat 4: zvejyss10 (36504 in chips)

Seat 5: jmmiro (10767 in chips)

Seat 6: Nuuk79 (25200 in chips)

Seat 7: beluga ace (9181 in chips)

Seat 8: bastian2402 (27147 in chips)

Seat 9: Upzez0r (38843 in chips)

capocek: posts the ante 100

19mike77: posts the ante 100

Sebi_Pl: posts the ante 100

zvejyss10: posts the ante 100

jmmiro: posts the ante 100

Nuuk79: posts the ante 100

beluga ace: posts the ante 100

bastian2402: posts the ante 100

Upzez0r: posts the ante 100

zvejyss10: posts small blind 400

jmmiro: posts big blind 800

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to zvejyss10 [Ks Kd]

Nuuk79: folds

beluga ace: folds

bastian2402: folds

Upzez0r: raises 899 to 1699

capocek: folds

19mike77: folds

Sebi_Pl: folds

zvejyss10: raises 2051 to 3750

jmmiro: folds

Upzez0r: calls 2051

*** FLOP *** [7d Th Jh]

zvejyss10: bets 4700

Upzez0r: calls 4700

*** TURN *** [7d Th Jh] [Jc]

zvejyss10: checks

Upzez0r: bets 9500

likus gal 20 krist iki itm.Opas pries itm zaijde turbut apie 50% ranku kur isejo ten lindo:)))Kaip sicia suzaistumet jus?dekui

to zvejyss10:

1 hande callas beveik 1:2, manau po tokio flopo dazniausiai atsilikinesi (pusej variantu stipriai) manau rasciau fold'a.

2 hande atvirksciai manau kad dazniausiai busi priekyje, taigi melziam opa.

To zvejys:

1. jei tight playeris, as check/call flop ir reevaluate turn, nes dabar kalini zinodamas, jog geriausiu atveju dar turi FD, o daznai ir jo neturesi, kitais atvejais uzdominuotas.

2. Bubble - betas stiprus atrodo, bet su karaliais cia tikrai sunku butu svarstyti issimesti. As push, ir jei krentu - esu ramiakas, jei pasikeliu stacka - pirmyn del piroms kovot

Tai va abieju handu pabaigos:

1hande po mano cbet gavau is jo shove,pakolinau pamaciau JJ(be kryziu) turne ir riveryje pagalbos nesulaukiau...

2hande po jo bet ant turn J kortos flatinau tikedamasis nereiksmingos kortos riveryje atejo A,gavau is jo sovini is visu cipsu,taij sitoje vietoje tenka foldint.Parode pats man KQoff...taigi kaip abu saket reikejo man kelt turne,tai va klausimas kiek?Ar tik pakelt ar sustumt viska,nes jeij jis ir vel atsako,tada jau jis cia padarys klaida,ar as neteisus???

Na ir kaip del check raise flop???Ar nebutu buve geriau zaist taip,tik va ar teisingai duot veltui ziuret i turn korta ant tokio daug draw turincio flopo???

ournament #567010494, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIII (200/400) - 2012/04/05 16:15:47 ET

Table '567010494 279' 9-max Seat #8 is the button

Seat 1: kinjutsu (22008 in chips)

Seat 2: zvejyss10 (12960 in chips)

Seat 3: LUNA2012 (13308 in chips)

Seat 4: ginoua (337 in chips)

Seat 5: nikosvon (33665 in chips)

Seat 6: ALEKS6505 (9823 in chips)

Seat 7: PokerKyle (4823 in chips)

Seat 8: traneren (20551 in chips)

Seat 9: totter xx (10108 in chips)

kinjutsu: posts the ante 50

zvejyss10: posts the ante 50

LUNA2012: posts the ante 50

ginoua: posts the ante 50

nikosvon: posts the ante 50

ALEKS6505: posts the ante 50

PokerKyle: posts the ante 50

traneren: posts the ante 50

totter xx: posts the ante 50

totter xx: posts small blind 200

kinjutsu: posts big blind 400

*** HOLE CARDS ***

Dealt to zvejyss10 [As Ts]

zvejyss10: raises 600 to 1000

LUNA2012: folds

ginoua: calls 287 and is all-in

nikosvon: folds

ALEKS6505: folds

PokerKyle: folds

traneren: folds

totter xx: calls 800

kinjutsu: folds

*** FLOP *** [3s Tc 4h]

totter xx: checks

zvejyss10: bets 1550

totter xx: raises 2850 to 4400

zvejyss10: raises 7510 to 11910 and is all-in

totter xx: calls 4658 and is all-in

Uncalled bet (2852) returned to zvejyss10

*** TURN *** [3s Tc 4h] [8c]

*** RIVER *** [3s Tc 4h 8c] [3c]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

totter xx: shows [Qd Qh] (two pair, Queens and Threes)

zvejyss10: shows [As Ts] (two pair, Tens and Threes)

totter xx collected 19655 from side pot

ginoua: shows [9c 4c] (a flush, Ten high)

ginoua collected 1598 from main pot

Naujas stalas...tai apie zaidejus jokio info.Sicia standart ar galejau rast fold...pastebejau kad dabar daros itin populiaru taip slowplayint su tokiu sakyciau gan mazu stacku...Dekui uz nuomones ir sorry kad nekonvertuota

Na, po flopo raise dazniausiai busi behind, nebent koks opas is blindu megsta su SC or smth like this sneakinti i puoda.

Kadangi info neturi - vertini kaip normalu zaideja, kuris nedaro nesamoniu. Siuo betu is principo jis komitinasi callint tavo AI, taigi su shudu taip suzaisti man nekaip nesiristu.

Jo call preflope daznai gali buti ir low PP, taigi cia ir su 33 ar 44 galetu taip suzaisti. O kad uzslowino actiona preflop su kumutem tai keista siek tiek... Bet kokiu atveju - as foldinu flopa, nes tikrinti ji gali tik komitindamas save. O zinant, jog jo betas kaip ir pasiulymas pasitaskyt is visu konkorezhiu - manau neverta rizikuoti. Sedi ir lauki geresniu spotu, su siek tiek daugiau informacijos, nes ant flopo tu gauni aisku signala, kad smth wrong, o dazniausiai tokie spotai nieko gero nezada.

Visiskai su tavim sutinku,bet kadangi kasdien zaijdziu tuose donkamentuose,taij prisiziuret ten gali visko:))) nenustebciau tokiam reise ir K10 ar J10 ar net kokius pocketus kaip 88 99 pamatyt...nu nieko kita kart pergalvosim kitaip,siap pats galvoju kad gal be info apie stala is utg reisint A10 nera itin gera mintis,pagamblinau ir gavau atsiplest:)))BET AR JIS TEISINGAIJ SUZAIJDE SU QQ TUREDAMAS TIK TIEK ZETONU IR DAR IS SB...???

Del paskutinio hand'o, tai manau, kad tu zvejyss10 labai logiskai mastai ir dazniausiai cia ir bus pas opa Tx ar net A4, 56 ir kitas meslas... ir kadangi boardas toks sausas, tai jis nepatikes tavo cbet'u ir bandys ismusti. Ir siaip jo tas suzaidimas slowplaint damas is SB man atrodo stipriai nevykes, nes turedamas 25 BB jis gauna proga stipriai padidint savo stacka, tai cia reikia kelti actiona pries flopa. Jam paprasciausiai pasiseke kad pakrito 1 is tavo 3 outu, kurie jam tiko...

Nu man ir pasirode tas keista,dar jo betas po mano cbet toks didelis kaip kad noretu mane ismust po flopo...tik va kad su tais slowplayeriais daznai tenka susidurt,suprantama slowplayint AA,Bet su QQ is SB ir dar duot pigiai isikist BB i veiksma,man neatrodo logiskai...ar as klystu???

Na man nepatinka toks slowplayinimas turint 25BB. Kadangi tu raise'ini is UTG tai tikrai turi neblogai ir manau jo vietoj drasiai galima permusineti pries flopa ir tiketis pusho is taves ar bent jau call'o. Jei pas ji butu iki 15 BB tai tokioj situacijoj pakankamai daznai zmones slowplayina monstrus. Nes po flopo toks zaidejas atrodo susikomitines ir jam bus nesunku i viduri sukist visus zetonus dazniausiai esant stipriai priekyje.

Opai nezinomi, per 10 handu pas SB 40/30, BB 60/20

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 5.5 Tournament, 350/700 Blinds 85 Ante (9 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

BB (t34778)

UTG (t24771)

UTG+1 (t11438)

MP1 (t17690)

MP2 (t33362)

MP3 (t11298)

Hero (CO) (t21888)

Button (t18849)

SB (t71501)

Hero's M: 12.06

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10, J

5 folds, Hero bets t1400, Button calls t1400, 1 fold, BB calls t700

Flop: (t5315) 3, 7, J(3 players)

BB checks, Hero bets t2150, Button raises to t6300, BB calls t6300

Hero?

viską pasako vienas žodis - bubble

Ar 10-10 ne per stipri ranka Open-shovint, SB vs BB ?

Daznai matau, zmones taip darant, ir nesuprantu ar ce jie silpnuma reprezentuoja, ar isties vien nori pavogt, blindus... ismesdami daug handu kuriuos BB reshovintu 22-55, Ax, KJ

nuo opo irgi nelabai priklauso, tiek y agresyvu, tiek y nita, man atrodo geriau tik 2.5raise /call.

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PokerStars Hand #78552990193: Tournament #567010507, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit -

Level XX (2000/4000) - 2012/04/08 17:41:04 ET

Seat 3: GS_LT (81824 in chips)

Seat 4: ckingusc (114370 in chips)

GS_LT: posts small blind 2000

ckingusc: posts big blind 4000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

6 folds

GS_LT: raises 77424 to 81424 and is all-in

ckingusc: calls 77424

*** FLOP *** [4s 9h 7d]

GS_LT: shows [Td Ts] (two pair, Tens and Nines)

ckingusc: shows [6s 6d] (two pair, Nines and Sixes)

GS_LT collected 166048 from pot