demetri1978

The updates on 2+2 today have highlighted me going very mad ...BECAUSE he is a thief

Even the guy defending him has seen that now ,he 100% stole

Me making $15,000 into $30,000 makes no sense

Joker is broke ,I won't get $15 extra let alone $15,000 ,so why would i

His new case seems to be a said it was to much money and i am mad in chat ...who cares ,is he a thief yes or no ???

http://imgur.com/iesaceY,68qBMLh,LnOtD6B,dkefG8Y,NTnG64r#4

That is all

I am MAD ...YES ...he is a thief YES ....will i get $15,000 extra NO ...will i get any money NO

Why would you care if it is $30 or $30' date='000???[/quote']

Probably because there is $29970 difference.

You miss the point ,someone that steals $30,will indeed steal $30,000 to

A thief is a thief (just for the record you can all see via chat logs he stole loads more)

I still can't find how you came up with the number $30,000. Can you just give us simple math here?

$16,000 on PS

$8,000 when he stole

$6,000 on other sites

Why would you care if it is $30 or $30,000??? i have proven he is a thief and a scum bag .Big amount or small amount does not change that ,a thief is a thief no matter what !

Update ...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41254200&postcount=224

I must say your forum and community has been very helpful (lots on Pm)

He has gives Countries like yours a bad name ,i am sorry to say.People are fickle,I will carry on backing people on there own merit ,not judging them because of scum bags like Joker

Thank you all

Well, in that skype chat i reposted it says he offered to grind missing money as sng in the middle and end of fifth image. I havent seen any post of him saying that he is out of your stake(sorry if i missed that).

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41240719&postcount=144

here he says he won't repay back ,yet we can ALL see he owes lots of make up and is still playing

Main thing i saw was Jokueris comfirmed he took money and promised to grind it back, but you didnt even want to hear about that: http://imgur.com/iesaceY,68qBMLh,LnOtD6B,dkefG8Y,NTnG64r#4 .

Yes, he broke your contract, but i dont him saying he is out of your stake. And how you think grinders make money(i ask this because of your last post about him playing now)? They go to job? If he had money he wouldnt go on stake or loan from you. This is such a huge misscommunication.

show the post where he said he will grind it back ?

I have asked 10x in the thread for him to do that and he has not replied once

and what about the screen shots of him saying he stole from me and would pay me back ???

He is playing right now with my money and keeping it all for himself !!!

http://i.imgur.com/5ORYudp.png

Look at the dates of his update ^^^

yet he still plays poker now without me ???

Kalti abu siaip is esmes. Jokueris pats sake, kad nera sventas, bet taip ir nepasake del ko. Siaip negrazu taip ignoruoti investuotoja, bet pilnai suprantu ir ji. uzsenietis totalus grybas yra, jei jis turi per 50 horsu ir nesugeba normalios duombazes vesti, kiek yra pasiusta $, kiek gauta atgal, jei jis apdairei ziurejo i si reikala , tai gavosi taip kaip ir turejo. Delioja dabar kazkokias iskarpas kad 7k yra pasiuntes is kazkur is konteksto istraukta , wtf ? Manau bet kuriam is musu irgi kantrybe galetu trukt jei atejes ciuvaciokas is oro 30k priskaiciaves butu. Jokueri parasyk visa situacija psui, paprasyk is visu saitu kur jis teigia jog tave stakino auditu, pilno, tiek is kitu horsu gautu tiek pasiusta, visus cashoutus, idek i 2+2 ir cia, svarbiausia pries save saziningas tada liksi. Sekmes.

This post shows joker confirming he is in $15,000 make up ,also shows him saying he stole from me .Please read it ALL!!!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41239182&postcount=87

So why is he at the tables NOW playing poker for himself when HE admits to being in $15,000 make up and stealing !!!???

WHY ???

http://imgur.com/2fvB5ha

Playing right now with my money ...

http://i.imgur.com/qrCmX7E.png

Unreal,he loses i lose ...he makes ,he steals more

Just to confirm there is money being sent else where (from me and horses)

Some FTP transfers...

http://imgur.com/ScbUcNl,b43fbbk

There is 2 pictures above ,can send more if need be

This has to be the highlight ...

http://i.imgur.com/dkefG8Y.png

Forget what i am saying and what he is saying ,just read that

(he says it is a mistake he cashed out $1,000s and will fix it but has no money)

LOL,what more can i say or do

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41239390&postcount=91

LOL,he has done the audit up until the 25th Nov ,that was when i lost contact

After that he stole money (AGAIN)

Esme tokia nesu as jau toks nekaltas bet suma kuria piesia autorius yra toli grazu nuo realybes ir daug x.

Kad ta irodyt kad sneka pievas apie skaicius galima auditais ir pan' date='aisku autorius gali prisigalvot kad buvau ilgiau steike nei istikro buvau na ta sunku butu isaiskint bet reliai kiek beziuretumete i visus grafikus tokios sumos niekada nebuvo ir nebus.

Ir siaip po tokiu pasireiskimu kai sumos is oro didinamos del jo ale "reputacijos" man tampa giliai px ar as scameris ar ne.

ps . parasykit kas is adminu i privata susitarism del audito tada ziuresim ka musu veikejas snekes toliau[/quote']

I do believe you Demitri that he owes you money, in the post quoted above he admits it himself but he states that the amount is much lower and was artificialy increased as some kind of reputation tax. I will do my best now and translate that quoted post above for you.

Translation:

"The thing is I am not that innocent but the amount which is stated by the author is far away from reality and X times.

To prove that he is talking rubbish about the numbers we can audit or similar, off course the author can make up that I was in stake for longer than I was but this would be hard to clear, but in essence no matter how much we would be looking into all the charts, stated amount of debt never was and never will be.

And in general after statements like this when amounts are increased from air because of his so called "reputation" I become deeply indifferent whether I am a scammer or not.

p.s. any of admins please write to me in private, we can agree on audit and we'll see what the other side will say further"

Admins, I translated this because this thread is being linked from 2+2 so the translation might be useful to foreign readers. Seeing people on 2+2 having a go at my country as unreliable is prejudiced thinking to say the least.

Please lets do a full audit ,you will see lots of transactions where he cashed out and i did not allow it

Even last week you will see he has done this ,this is stealing and makes him a thief

And why does he think it is ok now to play on his own when in so much make up?you have all seen the contract he signed ,it states you can not leave the stake in make up ,yet he has done so and is playing on his own right now

So admits to stealing and then drops the stake in make up ...i have now proved this ,what else is there to say ?

Unreal the nerve of this guy ,safe to say everyone now knows I back him

You can all see the chat where he admits to stealing

You can all see where he posted how much make up he is in

Yet he ignores all of this ,sends no audits and goes back to the tables now to play ,wow

http://imgur.com/yOrAm5V

Just now ^^^

Also he is back at the tables now playing on his JOKuERis account with my money ,which i am getting none of !!!???

Demetri, how exactly do you come up with that 30k figure, because the exact amount of money owed is the thing Jokueris is disputing as I understand.

Please read ALL i just posted

Chat where you can see him admit to stealing money ,he owes me loans and stolen money from a long time plus tons of make up

I am showing you someone who admits to stealing (in the screen shot chat logs)why would you believe him and not me ?

If you have any problems with the links they all work on this post/site...

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=41239182&postcount=87

And the chat alone of him admitting to stealing from me should be enough for the community to know this guy is a lying/thief/scumbag

Screen shots of the contract he signed:

http://imgur.com/WbMo0KQ,zmhdgan,nSFHveh,ZuLcU7J

There is 4 pictures above ,3 are just showing I backed him on different sites and one picture shows how he would agree to the contract

Screen shots of his cashier with my skype in the back ground confirming our deal:

http://imgur.com/Bp1WLkL

...

http://i.imgur.com/5sEruXu.jpg

Screen shots of me sending him money :

http://imgur.com/iCADlJR,SYelABz,Fpk...FeKX,bCYc4i5#5

This has 6 pictures which is my 60 day history on Pokerstars,I have backed this guy since August 2012 ,so it goes without saying I have sent him a lot more money ,via me and many of my horses

I send out lots of money every day ,my horses will send out money to my other horses as well.He will not post an audit to prove this cause he has been stealing...I will prove it with some screen shots below

This is him asking me in a private message can he post in group chat to get money (I have a MTT group chat room ,the rule is you can post in there for funds, but i must confirm it, for it to go through

http://i.imgur.com/lEoQw0y.png

This is somone in chat sending him money ,I can post loads of screen shots like this!!!(I did not post the whole screen shot of skype for this picture as all my other horses names will be seen)

http://i.imgur.com/uqXbLaV.png

Screen shots of him saying he won't send me an audit :

http://imgur.com/aXLaAkw

Screen shots of him confirming he is in $15,000 make up

http://imgur.com/SaVc0QH

Remember now he is saying he owes me $0 ,you can see in the above picture him write -14,979 that is his loss on Pokerstars.com ,NOT the money that is left in the account which he stole and not the money he owes for the other contracts you saw him sign .(i can send screen shots of me explaining to him how to update e.g when he writes -14,979...so you know that is an update of a loss on a site)

This is him being caught stealing ,there are 5 pictures.Please load up all 5 in order and read them...

http://imgur.com/iesaceY,68qBMLh,LnOtD6B,dkefG8Y,NTnG64r#4

What is going on here was him not giving me an audit before ,when he did I saw loads of money had been stolen.He said it was not stolen he was going to pay me back.As you can see from the chat history I gave no permission for him to send and he admits to being in debt and can't pay me back.So how the hell is this not stealing ?lol

So him posting silly shots of me and him sending money back and forth is a joke.You are not seeing all the $1,000s he was sent via group chat.We are not seeing his audits cause he won't give them ,so we don't see all his cashouts/stealing

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The screen shot link of SOME of the transfers did not work ,here it is again ...

http://imgur.com/iCADlJR,SYelABz,Fpk43yn,cZ21v6O,RWRFeKX,bCYc4i5#5

There is 6 pictures there

Just to confirm what is in this thread up to now...

Screen shots of the contract he signed

Screen shots of his cashier with my skype in the back ground confirming our deal

Screen shots of me sending him money

Screen shots of him saying he won't send me an audit

Screen shots of him confirming he is in $15,000 make up

More will be posted ,but without the audit from him we can not see him stealing .Pokerstars will not give me his audit

I can only take screen shots of the 60 days in the history options on Pokerstars.That does show the name next to the person you send money to .

When you do a long term audit over 60 days it does not show the name next to the person ,so that is no good

So please be clear what else you want to see ?

(there is more chat logs of when he stole in the past ,but on another computer ,which i should still be able to get)

nice proof of 30k

I have just showed you owe 15k in MU from your own writing lol

Now why won't you give us an audit ???

Do it now here!!!

and i will be posting all your chat history of when you scammed before ,what you going to say then ????

The audit will show loads of cashouts that was not allowed by me

So he is saying he will not provide audits ,an audit will show he is stealing

Simple as that and this is all on PS.com i backed him on other sites to

Some more recent contact ,this was when he went missing ...

http://imgur.com/SaVc0QH

As you can see ,he gave an update of close to a $15,000 loss,which is make up obviously

He then went missing for the rest of the week and stole what was left in the account

Here is some recent screen shots from my PS.com transfer history ...

http://imgur.com/iCADlJR,SYelABz,Fpk...FeKX,bCYc4i5#5

There is 6 pictures there ,i can get tons more

Here is a problem I have run into ,when i do a mass audit it has tons of money coming in and out of my account ...BUT it does not say who it is going to ,another problem is all my horses would send him money to (they can ALL come into this thread to confirm this) ...

This is all recorded by myself ,but it is on sheets that can always be edited by me ,so that is not great proof ah

I run what I do of a few different computers ,some I have got rid of ...so some chat logs will be missing and some won't ...i need to have a good look at what I can find ...also we do voice chat to that is not recorded

He has just come on skype and can post the chat logs if you want ,100% says no to giving me an audit ...if he does give me the audit you can see money will be cashed out one way ...money that we did not agree on to be cashed out ,he is stealing

skype chat just now ...

http://imgur.com/aXLaAkw