(Straipsnis) Iš ko uždirbame prie stalų ir žaidėjų klaidos

Straipsnis yra iš twoplustwo, o pateikiamas atsakymas yra parašytas Isura (Leggopoker). Diskusijos nuoroda:

http://archives1.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=7657928&an=0&page=133

The question was basically to establish, in a way, where we get money from in poker. Do we make more money from our opponent making a mistake (Read: a -EV decision) or from us getting all our money in as a decent favourite.

Interesting question, and I think both statements are very related. I mistake will generally result in a -EV situation. Generally when you get the money in good you have forced a mistake, but it's a mistake in the FTOP sense. Opponents will (should) make calls against your range, so they will sometimes be correct even though you're ahead a particular time.

The way I think about it is this: Think of your opponents weaknesses and try to induce them into making their largest mistakes as often as possible. It's easier to classify mistakes into classes instead of going through EV calculations each time (offcourse it is by doing such calculations that we gain an intuitive sense for when a play is +EV).

Examples of mistake classes:

small mistakes:

- making loosish preflop calls in position with speculative hands and playing decent/tight postflop.

- making tough folds with one pair type hands against sane oppoents.

- Most of the time when you fold the river (it's rarely a big mistake in NL to fold the river against heavy aggression, particularly for big bets when you have less than a big hand relative to your opponent's range).

- calling flops with less than odds (with marginal implied odds) with drawing hands. This is obviously less of a mistake when in position.

- stabbing at too many small/unraised pots.

Medium sized mistakes:

- Calling too much preflop OOP and playing "fit or fold" on the flop.

- Calling the turn with insufficient implied odds, especially when OOP.

- Calling preflop reraises with too many speculative or dominated hands.

- Giving tight players too much action with one pair.

- Bluffing (before the river) too much against loose players. Note that bluffing rivers against these players isn't as bad since they are often on missed draws or extremely weak 1 pair hands that can't call huge bets.

Big mistakes:

- Calling big river bets with marginal hands.

- Getting large %'s of your stack in preflop with dominated hands (AJ/99 etc). Offcourse dominated is relative to your opponents estimated range.

- Making big bluffs against signs of strength.

- Making big bluffs with no outs when called.

- Generally, any time you call big bets with marginal hands it's likely to be a big mistake.

Notice that in NL it is often a bigger mistake to call than to fold or bluff. And bluffing is usually better if you have outs (semibluffs)

Tikrai naudingas straipsnis, zaidimas stipriai pagerejo kai pirma karta ji perskaiciau 2+2. Darydavau kai kuriuos is siu isvardintu dalyku net nesuvokdamas, kad tai yra klaidos

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O jis kur nors sake, kad pats parase? isvis kokia prasme tokio komentaro.. Gal cia banerio naujas nickas?

O jis kur nors sake, kad pats parase? isvis kokia prasme tokio komentaro.. Gal cia banerio naujas nickas?

čia manau Chobo turėjo omenyje kad sau nusikopino šitą tekstą kad turėtų

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