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700$ deadline i 2k nugriautas, turejau abejotina handa 265$ ko mp1 c.darwin regas openina su 20bb kai nera shortuku as mp2 su AQo su 21bb, fold? Noretus nuomoniu is regu isgirsti

700$ deadline i 2k nugriautas, turejau abejotina handa 265$ ko mp1 c.darwin regas openina su 20bb kai nera shortuku as mp2 su AQo su 21bb, fold? Noretus nuomoniu is regu isgirsti

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700$ deadline i 2k nugriautas, turejau abejotina handa 265$ ko mp1 c.darwin regas openina su 20bb kai nera shortuku as mp2 su AQo su 21bb, fold? Noretus nuomoniu is regu isgirsti

Labai nustebciau jei shove nebutu pelningas.

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700$ deadline i 2k nugriautas, turejau abejotina handa 265$ ko mp1 c.darwin regas openina su 20bb kai nera shortuku as mp2 su AQo su 21bb, fold? Noretus nuomoniu is regu isgirsti

Sunkus spot'as. 3bet/fold gal?

Kiek suprantu matematiškai AQ 3bet/fold 20bb deep nėra geras movas. Tokiu atveju geriau su tokia ranka flat callint ip kad netektų nufoldint savo equity pre. Aš pats asmeniškai rinkčiausi 3bet ir call allin (jei oponentas labiau lose/aggro) arba flat call pre (jei opas labiau prie nitų), o apie fold galvočiau nebent prieš super nitą raisinantį iki 5proc. Tiesa, tokiuose limituose nežaidžiu, galbūt ten pas jus kitos tendencijos

flat noretusi atmesti, kadangi kai uz taves didesni stackai, tai net tokio bi KO ture randasi kruva fishu, kurie tiesiog sulys i pota del to KO. turbut yra trys opcijos tarp 3b-c, 3bP ir fold.

Jei openas 2bb, 3bet iki 4,2bb, visi pafoldina - openeris 4bet shavina tuomet banke būtų ~26bb, o dėl jų žaisti pakolint tereikia ~16bb. Jei 4bet shaverio range sudaro 99+ ir AQo+ (kas manau yra daugmaž standart aišku priklauso ir nuo dinamikos etc, bet galiu klysti - kaip sakiau tokių įpirkų turnyrų nežaidžiu) gauni daugmaž breakeven call, ir gaunas tough spot.

O kas jei 3bet daryti min click back iki 3 bb ar kažką pan? Aš asmeniškai taip nežaidžiu, bet pastebiu bent jau FR tendencijas atsiranda darančių tokius min clickback 3betus tiek for bluff/semibluff tiek su monstrais. Raisers edge irgi rašyta, jog čia kažkokia nauja mada dabar daryti tokius mažus clickbackus. Toks sizingas keičia kanors ar ne?

Kad cia ne dydyje esme. Esme, kad opas, suprasdamas, kad regas ji 3 betina situacijoje, kuria Lauris aprase (nera shortu ir t.t), ne 4betins AI silpniau nei JJ+, AQ+.

Tai jei gerai nustatei 4bet range išties JJ+, AQ+ tuomet žinoma AQo easy fold, bet aš praleidau matyt kažką savo pokerio moksluose vistiek man kažkodėl 3bet fold AQ su 20bb atrodo nekaip. Gaunas tam spote AQ dar preflop verčiam į blefą - nes taip pat sėkmingai galim 3bet/foldint any two toi vietoj (greičiausia regas į didesnį 3bet nei 4bb ten retai flatins, dažniausia rinksis tarp 4bet/fold).

Jei žaidžiam 3bet/fold to 4bet tuomet min clickback 3bet galbūt make sense - gavus 4bet lengvesnis sprendimas mažesni pot odsai, foldindami sutaupom bb, ir plius opas daugiau calina- manau beveik niekad nefoldina su tokiom dominuotom kortom kaip kqs, aj ir pns.

Pataisykit mane jei klystu

Na as toje rankoje susoviau all-in ir mane trikdo tai, kad Knockout turnyre kur nera shortuku del kuriu jam openint labiau apsimoketu (t.y. galetu juos raise/callint) ir visi stale coverina jis nores atidarineti siaura labai range su kuriuo tik pasirasineja, siaip pasitarus su kitais zaidejais jie agituoja uz sudejima. Gal tada vietoj shove reiketu 3bet/callint tik ji, kad isvengt coolerio pries uz nugaros esancius zaidejus.

PokerStars Hand #116084234851: Tournament #894306882, $2000+$100 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (5000/10000) - 2014/05/12 20:26:57 EET [2014/05/12 13:26:57 ET]

Table '894306882 85' 9-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: pyszalek (554990 in chips)

Seat 2: djk123 (191108 in chips)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 (194034 in chips)

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA (379875 in chips)

Seat 6: turataika (968233 in chips)

Seat 8: Face333X (272768 in chips)

pyszalek: posts the ante 1250

djk123: posts the ante 1250

LaurisL91: posts the ante 1250

PikkuHUMPPA: posts the ante 1250

turataika: posts the ante 1250

Face333X: posts the ante 1250

turataika: posts small blind 5000

Face333X: posts big blind 10000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

pyszalek: folds

djk123: folds

LaurisL91: calls 10000

PikkuHUMPPA: folds

turataika: folds

Face333X: checks

*** FLOP *** [2h 8h 7d]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 13325

Face333X: calls 13325

*** TURN *** [2h 8h 7d] [Qs]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 24251

Face333X: calls 24251

*** RIVER *** [2h 8h 7d Qs] [5s]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 38883

Face333X: calls 38883

*** SHOW DOWN ***

LaurisL91: shows [6s Ks] (high card King)

Face333X: shows [Th Qh] (a pair of Queens)

Face333X collected 185418 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 185418 | Rake 0

Board [2h 8h 7d Qs 5s]

Seat 1: pyszalek folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: djk123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 showed [6s Ks] and lost with high card King

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: turataika (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 8: Face333X (big blind) showed [Th Qh] and won (185418) with a pair of Queens

čIA STD?

PokerStars Hand #116084234851: Tournament #894306882, $2000+$100 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (5000/10000) - 2014/05/12 20:26:57 EET [2014/05/12 13:26:57 ET]

Table '894306882 85' 9-max Seat #4 is the button

Seat 1: pyszalek (554990 in chips)

Seat 2: djk123 (191108 in chips)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 (194034 in chips)

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA (379875 in chips)

Seat 6: turataika (968233 in chips)

Seat 8: Face333X (272768 in chips)

pyszalek: posts the ante 1250

djk123: posts the ante 1250

LaurisL91: posts the ante 1250

PikkuHUMPPA: posts the ante 1250

turataika: posts the ante 1250

Face333X: posts the ante 1250

turataika: posts small blind 5000

Face333X: posts big blind 10000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

pyszalek: folds

djk123: folds

LaurisL91: calls 10000

PikkuHUMPPA: folds

turataika: folds

Face333X: checks

*** FLOP *** [2h 8h 7d]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 13325

Face333X: calls 13325

*** TURN *** [2h 8h 7d] [Qs]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 24251

Face333X: calls 24251

*** RIVER *** [2h 8h 7d Qs] [5s]

Face333X: checks

LaurisL91: bets 38883

Face333X: calls 38883

*** SHOW DOWN ***

LaurisL91: shows [6s Ks] (high card King)

Face333X: shows [Th Qh] (a pair of Queens)

Face333X collected 185418 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 185418 | Rake 0

Board [2h 8h 7d Qs 5s]

Seat 1: pyszalek folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: djk123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 showed [6s Ks] and lost with high card King

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: turataika (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 8: Face333X (big blind) showed [Th Qh] and won (185418) with a pair of Queens

čIA STD?

Manau, kad sumanymas buvo geras. Aplamai sunkiu turnyru std zaisdamas nedeepinsi.

PokerStars Hand #116080910041: Tournament #894306882, $2000+$100 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXV (3500/7000) - 2014/05/12 19:15:49 EET [2014/05/12 12:15:49 ET]

Table '894306882 85' 9-max Seat #7 is the button

Seat 1: pyszalek (408460 in chips)

Seat 2: djk123 (207924 in chips)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 (353307 in chips)

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA (368265 in chips)

Seat 5: bigegypt (120503 in chips)

Seat 6: turataika (664069 in chips)

Seat 7: hdjgkfkgsdl (716024 in chips)

Seat 8: Face333X (288788 in chips)

Seat 9: Danny98765 (114692 in chips)

pyszalek: posts the ante 875

djk123: posts the ante 875

LaurisL91: posts the ante 875

PikkuHUMPPA: posts the ante 875

bigegypt: posts the ante 875

turataika: posts the ante 875

hdjgkfkgsdl: posts the ante 875

Face333X: posts the ante 875

Danny98765: posts the ante 875

Face333X: posts small blind 3500

Danny98765: posts big blind 7000

*** HOLE CARDS ***

pyszalek: folds

djk123: folds

LaurisL91: raises 7000 to 14000

PikkuHUMPPA: folds

bigegypt: folds

turataika: folds

hdjgkfkgsdl: folds

Face333X: folds

Danny98765: calls 7000

*** FLOP *** [5h 2h 2c]

Danny98765: checks

LaurisL91: bets 16143

Danny98765: raises 83674 to 99817 and is all-in

LaurisL91: calls 83674

*** TURN *** [5h 2h 2c] [5s]

*** RIVER *** [5h 2h 2c 5s] [9d]

*** SHOW DOWN ***

Danny98765: shows [5c Tc] (a full house, Fives full of Deuces)

LaurisL91: shows [Kd Qh] (two pair, Fives and Deuces)

Danny98765 collected 239009 from pot

*** SUMMARY ***

Total pot 239009 | Rake 0

Board [5h 2h 2c 5s 9d]

Seat 1: pyszalek folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 2: djk123 folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 3: LaurisL91 showed [Kd Qh] and lost with two pair, Fives and Deuces

Seat 4: PikkuHUMPPA folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 5: bigegypt folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 6: turataika folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 7: hdjgkfkgsdl (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Seat 8: Face333X (small blind) folded before Flop

Seat 9: Danny98765 (big blind) showed [5c Tc] and won (239009) with a full house, Fives full of Deuces

Gal gali pakomentuot?

20th apmaudu. Siaip nesuzaidziau geriausiai kaip galejau, cold4betas vienas ne vietoj israsytas buvo be flow ir pries Dan Smith missreadintas range'as galimai nereikejo su KQ nurinkinet jo shortstacko ant 533. Na ir sunkus handas pries Dan Kelly bet manau geras straighto foldas buvo, nes flushas make'ino perfect sense o bluff handu nesugalvojau kokie galetu buti.