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NL25 sesija (key hands)

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BB ($29.54)

UTG ($25)

Hero (MP) ($25)

Button ($31.27)

SB ($50.92)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qclub.gif, Qspade.gif

UTG bets $0.85, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $3.25, UTG calls $2.65

Flop: ($10.60) 7diamond.gif, 10club.gif, 7spade.gif(3 players)

BB bets $26.04 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $21.50 (All-In)

Turn: ($53.60) 10diamond.gif(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($53.60) 4spade.gif(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $53.60 | Rake: $2.68

Main pot: $53.60 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had 10spade.gif, Aspade.gif (full house, tens over sevens).

Hero had Qclub.gif, Qspade.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).

Outcome: BB won $50.92

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BB ($4.28)

UTG ($26.52)

Hero (MP) ($38.12)

Button ($25.78)

SB ($22.58)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2diamond.gif, Adiamond.gif

1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 9heart.gif, 10diamond.gif, Kdiamond.gif(2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.95) Jdiamond.gif(2 players)

SB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $21.73 (All-In), Hero calls $11.73

River: ($45.41) 8diamond.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $45.41 | Rake: $2.27

Main pot: $45.41 between Hero and SB, won by SB

Results:

SB had 9diamond.gif, Qdiamond.gif (straight flush, King high).

Hero had 2diamond.gif, Adiamond.gif (flush, Ace high).

Outcome: SB won $43.14

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SB ($20.91)

BB ($22.49)

UTG ($25.12)

MP ($24.08)

Hero (CO) ($25)

Button ($31.63)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qclub.gif, Qspade.gif

2 folds, Hero bets $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 5diamond.gif, 4heart.gif, 9diamond.gif(2 players)

BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $24.15 (All-In), BB calls $15.64 (All-In)

Turn: ($45.08) Jclub.gif(2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($45.08) 5club.gif(2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $45.08 | Rake: $2.25

Main pot: $45.08 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had Jheart.gif, Jspade.gif (full house, Jacks over fives).

Hero had Qclub.gif, Qspade.gif (two pair, Queens and fives).

Outcome: BB won $42.83

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SB ($11.65)

BB ($34.55)

UTG ($21.55)

MP ($23.05)

CO ($46.86)

Hero (Button) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qheart.gif, Jheart.gif

UTG bets $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05) Qspade.gif, Jclub.gif, 7diamond.gif(2 players)

UTG bets $2.05, Hero raises to $5.50, UTG raises to $13, Hero raises to $20.50, UTG raises to $20.70 (All-In), Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($43.45) 7club.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($43.45) 8club.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $43.45 | Rake: $2.17

Main pot: $43.45 between UTG and Hero, won by UTG

Results:

Hero had Qheart.gif, Jheart.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).

UTG had Kdiamond.gif, Kclub.gif (two pair, Kings and sevens).

Outcome: UTG won $41.28

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BB ($20.68)

UTG ($35.13)

MP ($25)

Hero (CO) ($25.09)

Button ($55.33)

SB ($27.91)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10club.gif, 10spade.gif

1 fold, MP bets $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2.75, MP calls $2

Flop: ($9.10) 8spade.gif, 7heart.gif, 6spade.gif(3 players)

BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, 1 fold

Turn: ($21.10) 2club.gif(2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $11.75, BB calls $11.68 (All-In)

River: ($44.46) 3spade.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $44.46 | Rake: $2.22

Main pot: $44.46 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had Aspade.gif, Qspade.gif (flush, Ace high).

Hero had 10club.gif, 10spade.gif (one pair, tens).

Outcome: BB won $42.24

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SB ($10)

BB ($31.68)

UTG ($26.98)

Hero (MP) ($29.02)

Button ($30.08)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qheart.gif, Qspade.gif

2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 6diamond.gif, 7spade.gif, 4spade.gif(2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4) 2diamond.gif(2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $2 (All-In)

River: ($20) Aclub.gif(2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20 | Rake: $1

Main pot: $20 between SB and Hero, won by SB

Results:

SB had 2heart.gif, 2spade.gif (three of a kind, twos).

Hero had Qheart.gif, Qspade.gif (one pair, Queens).

Outcome: SB won $19

Zinau, kad cia esantiems grinderiams tokie beatai kasdienybe, bet kas idomiausia (liudniausia), kad visa tai nutiko per mazdaug 10min, kas dar liudniau, kad tai tesiasi jau ketvirta savaite! Turbut dar savaitele ir daugiau nei poker mindsetas nepades, na bent jau bankrollas tikrai nebeatlaikys, nes dabar down -500$ ir pabaigos kol kas nesimato... beje pries tai per 150k handu buvau 2BB/100 laimintis zaidejas :-/

PS. is pateiktu handu tik JQs buvo zaista pries TAG, visi kiti handai pries calling stationus kuriu VPIP >40, o PFR <10

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Likimo brolis :) žaidžiu NL20. Norėjau šiandien aš irgi pasidalinti savo vargais, papostinti paskutiniosios savaitės savo bad beatus, t.y išrinkti kokių 10 skausmingiausių iš visos tos krūvos... 3x mano KK pre flope neatsilaikė prieš QQ, AA prieš KK, 2x KK prieš AK.. ir dar daug įdomesnių ir skaudesnių. Man tai tęsiasi šiek tiek daugiau nei savaitė, ~16 000 handų. HM rodo, balansas -185 EU, EV +143 EU. Guodi save, kad sužaista gerai, bet kai Tave daužo nuolat, gavus KK paklausi savęs, prieš ką pralaimėsiu dabar.. :)

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Tai va paskui sustumi all in +EV ir jei priesininkas turi out'u su ironiska sypsena galvoji 'Ï wonder how Im gonna fuck up this time'... Ir apskritai kartais man sunku suvokti, kaip situose limituose galima daryti 7-8 BB/100, nes toks jausmas, kad tuos pinigus kuriuos susirenki nuo stalu del savo skill, prarandi situacijose kai tavo opponentas suzaidzia super bad arba su KK ivaziuoji i AA, tada gaunasi, kad valanda laiko ant 8 stalu surinkineji mazus bankelius su Cbet'ais, resteal'ais ar gerais readais, tada ant kurio nors stalo gauni bad beat'a ir viskas nueina per niek, o jei gauni pora beat'u tai dar ziurek ir sekanciai valandai 'avansa' turi :)

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BlackCO, parašei mano mintis.. Lygiai tą patį norėjau rašyt, bet pamaniau, kad ne aš temą užkūriau, tai gal per daug nesiplėsiu apie save ir savo istoriją... NL10 turėjau 12.6 BB/100, viskas ėjosi labai lengvai. NL20 žaidėjai panašūs, fišų daug, tik "regai" geresni... Bet kaip nepavyksta susikraut bankrollo taip nepavyksta.. Man irgi taip pat, žaidi žaidi, susikrauni pliusą iš lėto ir, žiūrėk, bad beatas.. Arba turi AK, supušini all-in su fišu, jis parodo JJ, nei A nei K neiškrinta, buyino nebėra, rebuyini, gauni QQ, pušini all in prieš tą patį, jis AK parodo, ant flopo jau KK šmėžuoja, labanakt... čia net neskaitau bad beatais, bet tiesiog kai nesiseka, tai nesiseka, nei coin flipai eina, nei dar kas...

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Praejau ta pati kosmaara praziurejes visus handus, nieko, negalima pasiduot!

O labiausiai nervina, kai fish'as nezino kaip zaisti 3bet pote. Flopa stumia su second pair arba visai su air ir pagauna savo out'a ant turn ar river, rrr! :)

Siulau padaryti keliu dienu ar net ilgiau pertrauka nuo pokerio, padeda atgauti pasitikejima, pasimirsta badbeatai ir zaidejai primirse tavo zaidimo ypatumus. As irgi pernelyg nesiparindavau po badbeat'u ir toliau zaisdavau, bet veliau vis pasiziuri i grafikus ir matai, kad ir koks tu susikaupes ir "rimtais" buvadavai visvien kreive eina zemyn.

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Viena karta pralošei vienoj situacijoj, o paskaičiuok kiek kita kartą laimėsi. Kur jūsų mintys apie +EV žaidimą? Aišku tokie beatai skaudina, bet nuo ju niekur nepabėgsi, o dar kai per 10min taip, aišku sunku susitaikyt, bet čia pokeris. Pailsėt manau dabar tikrai reiktų, ir poto atsiimti penkis kart daugiau;D

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Viena karta pralošei vienoj situacijoj, o paskaičiuok kiek kita kartą laimėsi. Kur jūsų mintys apie +EV žaidimą? Aišku tokie beatai skaudina, bet nuo ju niekur nepabėgsi, o dar kai per 10min taip, aišku sunku susitaikyt, bet čia pokeris. Pailsėt manau dabar tikrai reiktų, ir poto atsiimti penkis kart daugiau;D

na jei butu viena diena tai niekas cia nerasinetu, pats daug zaidziu ir zinau kokiu dienu buna, bet kaip jau ir rasiau tai tesiasi ketvirta savaite...

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Anksčiau ar vėliau viskas susitvarkys:)

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BB ($29.54)

UTG ($25)

Hero (MP) ($25)

Button ($31.27)

SB ($50.92)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif

UTG bets $0.85, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, BB calls $3.25, UTG calls $2.65

Flop: ($10.60) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)

BB bets $26.04 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $21.50 (All-In)

Turn: ($53.60) 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($53.60) 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $53.60 | Rake: $2.68

Main pot: $53.60 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, tens over sevens).

Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and tens).

Outcome: BB won $50.92

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BB ($4.28)

UTG ($26.52)

Hero (MP) ($38.12)

Button ($25.78)

SB ($22.58)

Preflop: Hero is MP with 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif

1 fold, Hero bets $0.85, 1 fold, SB calls $0.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.95) 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($1.95) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)

SB bets $0.75, Hero raises to $2.75, SB raises to $5.50, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $21.73 (All-In), Hero calls $11.73

River: ($45.41) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $45.41 | Rake: $2.27

Main pot: $45.41 between Hero and SB, won by SB

Results:

SB had 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (straight flush, King high).

Hero had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (flush, Ace high).

Outcome: SB won $43.14

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SB ($20.91)

BB ($22.49)

UTG ($25.12)

MP ($24.08)

Hero (CO) ($25)

Button ($31.63)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif

2 folds, Hero bets $0.85, 2 folds, BB calls $0.60

Flop: ($1.80) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 9http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)

BB bets $1, Hero raises to $3, BB raises to $6, Hero raises to $24.15 (All-In), BB calls $15.64 (All-In)

Turn: ($45.08) Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($45.08) 5http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $45.08 | Rake: $2.25

Main pot: $45.08 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (full house, Jacks over fives).

Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (two pair, Queens and fives).

Outcome: BB won $42.83

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SB ($11.65)

BB ($34.55)

UTG ($21.55)

MP ($23.05)

CO ($46.86)

Hero (Button) ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif

UTG bets $0.85, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.85, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.05) Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)

UTG bets $2.05, Hero raises to $5.50, UTG raises to $13, Hero raises to $20.50, UTG raises to $20.70 (All-In), Hero calls $0.20

Turn: ($43.45) 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($43.45) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $43.45 | Rake: $2.17

Main pot: $43.45 between UTG and Hero, won by UTG

Results:

Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Jhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif (two pair, Queens and Jacks).

UTG had Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, Khttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (two pair, Kings and sevens).

Outcome: UTG won $41.28

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BB ($20.68)

UTG ($35.13)

MP ($25)

Hero (CO) ($25.09)

Button ($55.33)

SB ($27.91)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif

1 fold, MP bets $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, BB calls $2.75, MP calls $2

Flop: ($9.10) 8http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (3 players)

BB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $6, BB calls $6, 1 fold

Turn: ($21.10) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players)

BB checks, Hero bets $11.75, BB calls $11.68 (All-In)

River: ($44.46) 3http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $44.46 | Rake: $2.22

Main pot: $44.46 between BB and Hero, won by BB

Results:

BB had Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (flush, Ace high).

Hero had 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif, 10http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, tens).

Outcome: BB won $42.24

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SB ($10)

BB ($31.68)

UTG ($26.98)

Hero (MP) ($29.02)

Button ($30.08)

Preflop: Hero is MP with Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif

2 folds, Hero bets $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) 6http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif, 7http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif, 4http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB calls $1.25

Turn: ($4) 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/diamond.gif (2 players)

SB checks, Hero bets $3, SB raises to $6, Hero raises to $9, SB calls $2 (All-In)

River: ($20) Ahttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/club.gif (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20 | Rake: $1

Main pot: $20 between SB and Hero, won by SB

Results:

SB had 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, 2http://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (three of a kind, twos).

Hero had Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/heart.gif, Qhttp://www.flopturnriver.com/phpBB2/images/smiles/spade.gif (one pair, Queens).

Outcome: SB won $19

Zinau, kad cia esantiems grinderiams tokie beatai kasdienybe, bet kas idomiausia (liudniausia), kad visa tai nutiko per mazdaug 10min, kas dar liudniau, kad tai tesiasi jau ketvirta savaite! Turbut dar savaitele ir daugiau nei poker mindsetas nepades, na bent jau bankrollas tikrai nebeatlaikys, nes dabar down -500$ ir pabaigos kol kas nesimato... beje pries tai per 150k handu buvau 2BB/100 laimintis zaidejas :-/

PS. is pateiktu handu tik JQs buvo zaista pries TAG, visi kiti handai pries calling stationus kuriu VPIP >40, o PFR <10

Na gerai o klausyk tu sukoutu niekam nepadarai niekada?

Toliau reikia analizuoti ar ishtikruju tesiasi tas lossas vien tik del tokiu beatu ar yra kitu vietu kur ishmetai $$$.

Sakykime gauni 3 beatus kurie sumoj susidaro 150$ padarai beatus uzh 150$ ir kitose situacijose ishmetai 150$ - visumoje galvoji jog tavo minusas 150$ yra del tu 3 beatu.

Todel Benai, padarom toki dalyka tu man atsiusk visas savo rankas kur tu taip sakai 4 savaites runnini bad ash viska perziuriu ish geros shirdies ir parashau kaip viskas yra :) sutarta?

Yra geras postas 2+2 apie deliusion kai zhmones praranda 100 buy in ir vis galvoja kad jie runnina bad :)

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na nesu as tas kuris nedaro klaidu, taciau nesu ir tas kuris megsta kiekviena badbeat'a postint, tiesiog blogas periodas dabar ir kai viska vainikuoja tokia sesija tai tas postas yra kaip pokalbis depresuojanciam zmogui... kita vertus tik po tokiu bad runnu tobulejimas vyksta sparciausiai, nes yra stipri motyvacija perziureti zaidima iki pat smulkmenu... o tavo pasiulymas tikrai mane nudziugino ir butinai juo passinaudosiu :) check pm

p.s. Benas??? :)

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teks pabut Benu del analizes:)))

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xe xe no prob, tiks ir Benas :) Beje, 010101010101 gal turi kur po ranka ta linka i 2+2 kur uzsiminei del delusion, manau ne vienam praverstu pasiskaitinet :)

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man tai idomiau butu pamatyt kad ir pokerEV grafus kaip runinat :P vietoj to kad rasytu cia handus ir sakytu kad labai blogai runina. 10, 20, 30 handu nera blogas runas imo, tai tik handai blogi.

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Slayer, POkerEv, jei neklystu supportina tik PT2, o PT3 yra ALL IN performance. Jeigu supranti PT3 grapha - parasyk cia arba man i PM, nes as nekertu jo.

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